Dear Divers,Like ALL stories, also this story has ...
Dear Divers,
Like ALL stories, also this story has more sides to it. I am one of the witnesses of the incident on the boat that day. This incident was the (one of the) reason(s) for Henrik (The Dive Center Manager) to react like he did. If he was angry or even furious, I can completely imagine! Please, do not get me wrong…I am not trying to justify Henriks reaction to all this, even if I wanted to. I can’t, because of the simple reason that I was not there in the restaurant when the discussion between the group and Henrik had happened. My opinion is that you can not judge over an incident when you don’t have the two sides of the story. Neither, judge over a reaction that a Manager of a Diving Center has over an incident that is/or could have seriously jeopardized the reputation of the Diving Center he is responsible of. That’s why I feel I should put the story online, so others know more about what really happened and that maybe people learn about other people’s mistakes.
We arrived at the 3rd dive site of that day. There were a lot of high waves smashing and breaking over the top of the reef, coming from north direction, frontal into the bow section(front side) of the boat, to the stern (back side).The dive was going to be a stationary dive to the reef in front of the boat. The reef was a long stretched coral block from west to east, very small. An average diver could easily manage to swim around it twice. Under the boat we had deep water…..deep deep!! CLOSE to the reef there is a sandy plateau that COMES UP TO about 24 m. Although my buddy and I dived till 20 m only. Since it was the third dive of the day my buddy and I were discussing whether or not to do this dive, or choose to relax. In the end we decided that we wanted to see the reef and agreed on going for a short one (we are used to dive AT LEAST one hour). The dive guide was notified and we agreed that we would be the last buddy team to go in.
Most of the people were ready, or almost ready to jump in when we started to get ready. By looking at the first group going in, it was clear that it was not so easy to get in the water. Not really because of lack of experience of some, but simply because the waves were high and they clearly made a trampoline out of the platform. Also, at the back of the boat we had a zodiac lined up; which was bumping on the waves. No problem to do the dive, we just needed to take care of our balance and make sure to jump in at the right moment to prevent a platform or a zodiac on top of somebody’s head. As the dive guide was already in the water, and everybody else was ready to go in, I decided to help the crew of the boat a bit with getting the people safely from the platform in the water. My buddy and I were still just in our suits.
After everybody got in (except for Mr. Peter A.), my buddy and I continued with getting ready. While we were doing our buddy check, Mr. Peter A. (TL 2, ca 1500 TG) came down from the sundeck and started to put on his suit. I looked and thought it was strange, since everybody left already. Usually, one would think that maybe this person would like to go out for snorkeling, but since the weather/ water conditions were not suitable for such thing, I asked him what he was going to do. He just looked up, without answering. So, again I asked him what he was going to do. He mumbled something that I could not understand. Than it became clear to me…..he was alone, there was still one set of dive equipment ready to be used, and he was planning to go and dive…… on his own. Not to jump to conclusions and to get my thoughts confirmed, I asked Mr. Peter A. if he was planning to dive on his own. Again I got no answer. I repeated the question. Now the answer was: “NO”. I asked who his buddy was going to be, since I knew that “his” group already left……no answer…….I repeated the questions: Who is your buddy and where is he/she? And, where is this person’s equipment??.....Then he mentioned a name. I asked again where he was, and got again no reply. After making funny faces Mr. Peter A. said that it was not my business and I should not interfere. I said that he should not think I am stupid and, that IF he was going to go for a “solo dive”, and something would happen to him, it was going to be my business for sure!
This because the rules amongst professionals are very clear: The highest certified/ most experienced diver on the site is expected to take responsibility that things run as smooth as possible, in case of an emergency/ incident. And since I was probably this person on the site that day, it was going to be my business, IF he was planning to neglect the rules of the Dive center, the general rules of recreational diving, AND the Egyptian Law!
Highly irritated he asked me what kind of certification I had. Since I am not a person bragging about my certification/ experience and how many dives I have, I told him, that was no important information for him to know at this point. Than, in an even more irritated way he asked me again about my level. I told him: It does not matter but, if you really want to know: I am an IDCS instructor (for people who are not familiar: this is the level of instructor that is allowed to give most of the training up to and including the level of Instructor, where Instructor training needs to be under supervision of a Course director). His reply: “And do you know who I am??? Well?? Do you know who I am??? I made far MORE dives then you did!”(At this point and until Mr. Peter A. is reading this story, he did not know about the amount of dives I have done so far). I told him that I didn’t give a shit who he was, what level he was and how many dives he had done and that the only conclusion I could make of this is, that with all his so called experience, he was planning to do something stupid and irresponsible. I informed him about the fact that people still drown in the Red Sea and that most accidents are with more experienced divers, simply because, they have forgotten the power of water and lost their respect to the sea along there career. I told him: You might be experienced but you can still make mistakes. What you are doing now is a mistake! On top of it is selfish. There are people on the boat who are on holiday, some of them even on there first proper dive holiday. What IF something happens? You are going to be responsible of giving these people a day never to forget. Look at the sea and the conditions! They are far from optimal and there is no way for a rescuer to help you in a proper manner in case something might happen. This is completely stupid!
After saying all this, I realized he was not listening at all. I lost most of my anger and I tried a different approach. I asked: Please, please, do not do this. Do not go in on your own. Stay out or JOIN US. I do not mind. (Do not forget that this day was supposed to be on of the rare days I can go for fun diving!). But, whatever you do, do not go in alone. Please….. In the meantime my buddy was waiting in the water for me and he had put his dive equipment on. He got up, made me step aside with an “ACH!!!!” sound coming out of his mouth. He did a negative entry and disappeared straight down into the deep blue, with the captain and me as surface witnesses and, my buddy in the water. Both the captain and my buddy asked: What is he doing??? Where is he going??? I told them both: He is going on his own; he is not diving with us. The captain was for sure not happy about this and said he did not want to have trouble on his boat. I fully understood him and thought he was right. I asked the captain to pay extra attention to the surface and to express his feelings to the Dive Center Manager about the whole thing. He asked me to do the same.
My buddy and I went for our dive immediately after Mr. Peter A. Even while going immediately after in the water, I couldn’t see any sign (or bubble) of Mr. Peter A. anymore. After 44 min. including safety stop, we got back on the boat.
The first person I saw was the captain, looking worried to the sea surface. I called him and asked if “Mr. Stupid” was already back. This was said in Arabic so no other guest could understand that I said this. He said: “No, he is not back yet and, I do NOT like this AT ALL”. I took my equipment of and started to look in the water. I saw a small group of people diving next to the boat in the direction of the platform, and I recognized the Orange jacket of Mr. Peter A. Yes, he came back with his group, but then again…it’s not so hard to find your group on a small reef like this.
To show everybody how good he was he found it necessary to get back on the platform of boat in the Dolfinarium“Sea lion” style. Not very professional for an Instructor, to do this, I must say. Since the platform was still going up and down because of the waves, this was probably the most unsafe way to get back on the boat. Once he got on the platform, he slipped and almost fell over, with fins and full equipment on. It was because of the boat crew that he could remain standing.
After the dive no exchange of words took place anymore. I had no interest of wasting anymore of my time to a stubborn and foolish person like that. To prevent any discussion, I also waited with speaking to the Dive Guide till we got back in the harbor. The fact that I told him, was not to speak bad about Mr. Peter A. (witch was off course the only thing possible) but more for the safety and care of the Dive Guide that was going with Mr. Peter A. on the boat the next day!
Back in the Dive Center, Henrik asked me what happened. Since the Dive Guide was there, I thought he had talked to Henrik already. But no, it was the captain that told Henrik what happened and surely Henrik wanted to know if the story was true. For me this was the end of it…..although, this is what I thought till the moment I found the negative stories about Equinox, the Manager and the Boat Crew on this website. I am usually just a reader and a silent visitor of forums on several websites, but reading the stories above, I had to write this of my chest.
To make the situation even clearer, I have listed some facts, Questions and statements:
• Mr. Peter A. is a TL 2 with about 1500 TG, maybe with some luck he is middle aged, so he belongs to the OLDER generation of divers.
• Me, IDCS Instructor with over 2000 TG, experience in cold water/ dive safaris and over 6 years of experience in the dive industry of which 5 years of instructing experience(this was something Mr. Peter A. obviously did not know). This information will make readers probably understand more about why I bothered to even stop this person. Simply because, unfortunately, I know and witnessed myself that a nice day on the boat can end up in a tragedy.
• Because of my level of certification, I am expected to help any person in case of an emergency. To be honest, after a conversation like mentioned before, it is really hard to feel myself motivated in case something would have happened to Mr. Peter A. A person, who deliberately puts himself in an unsafe situation and has no respect for other people, rules, local law or water. For sure I would feel obligated to help this person in case of an emergency, but you can probably understand why, in my anger, I was thinking: “Go on! Just fuck off and kill your self” (Apologies to this language but this is simply what I thought).
• I like deep dives myself. And since underwater photography is one of my hobbies, you can understand that with dives I do to make photo’s, I preferably do them solo as well, or with somebody else with the same goals. There is nothing wrong with doing dives like that, as long as they are well planned, with the use of the proper equipment and safety measurements, and done within the limits of the Egyptian law. In the end this means: being a technical diver of some level, equipped with stage tanks or other bail out system, at supervision of a technical dive facility. So, in this case I do not think that Mr. Peter A. is meeting ANY of these requirements.
• Mr. Peter A. clamed to be a TL 2. I, as a dive professional, am taking my responsibilities as one seriously. These responsibilities do not end on day of “fun diving” with a friend. As an instructor, you should always act as a role model to other divers. Not only towards less high or less experienced divers. For you knowledge, there was at least one person on board who was newly certified. I sorry to say so, but Mr. Peter A. was one of the worst examples that somebody could have that day. As he is still an instructor, I hope that others still did learn from him that day. As especially how you should NOT act as a responsible diver!
• How can the rest of the group say that Mr. Peter A. was right behind them, when he only started to get dressed and ready after everybody went into the water??? THIS IS SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE!!!
• If Mr. Peter A. and one of the members of his group would have simply shown Henrik their dive computers, to show similar dive time/ depth and entry time, there was nothing to discus anyway. For sure this did not happen, or, did it Mr. Peter A.???
• Why did Mr. Peter A. waited to get dressed after everybody left, and why he did not join his group from the start? Another small detail to the sorry: he told the responsible dive guide of that day that he was not going to make this dive!!! Since the dive guide was in the water, he could not possibly know that Mr. Peter A. went for the dive anyway! To me, this all looks like Mr. Peter A. had been planning his solo dive. He knew that the dive guide would not let him go for the dive alone so he waited till everybody left. Except for my buddy and I. This could be because of the reason we were taking things slow. We were not going for a long dive anyway so: No rush. If he would have waited any longer, he would not be able to come back with the rest of the group to cover up his solo dive. Like this, nobody had to know about it. Very smart, but unfortunately not smart enough.
• Al this happened during the 3rd dive of the day. Even though DAN (Divers Alert Network) published very interesting articles about how you can safely dive reverse profiles, it does not take a professor in physics and decompression theory to figure out that this is not a very smart move.
• I hope that in the future people will choose there instructor carefully, and not have Mr. Peter A. as their instructor. If he is not giving any value to rules and regulations, how can his students get this???? Leaning people how to set up their equipment, breath under water and use their fins is simply not enough to make them a diver!!!!! Some common sense and responsibility is also part of the “game” to keep this sport a save and fantastic hobby. Unfortunately Mr. Peter A. has got a serious lack of both.
• Henrik is a former colleague of mine who I have known for years as a respectable person with an enormous knowledge about diving. A strong person with good judgment.
I think that enough has been said about this matter now and that this “other side of the story” surely explains the anger and frustration of Henrik. Like I said before: I cannot judge over his placed remark towards the guest because, I was not there when this happened. The only thing that I can say is that people who are acting like this would never be welcome on a boat or Dive Center where I was to be the responsible person.
Despite this incident, the bad visibility during the house reef dives, the cold wind, the waves (that made it CLEARLY impossible to get anywhere near Elphinstone) and no dugong encounter, my buddy and I had a great time!!! For sure these things have got nothing to do with the professional way Claudia and Henrik are running things in the center. For sure we will go back to Equinox in the near future!
To all divers that would like to keep diving a great and fantastic experience: wish you a lot of great and save dives in the future!!! Like nicely said: Leave bubbles, no troubles!!!
Gr. Mireille
Ps: 5 fins because, I am spoild and laizy. There is a ´trolley service´ that will bring you Equipment close to the watersite of the house reef but I (!!!) choose not to use this (Stupid me). Result: muscle pain in the arms from draging my camera along on every dive.
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Like ALL stories, also this story has more sides to it. I am one of the witnesses of the incident on the boat that day. This incident was the (one of the) reason(s) for Henrik (The Dive Center Manager) to react like he did. If he was angry or even furious, I can completely imagine! Please, do not get me wrong…I am not trying to justify Henriks reaction to all this, even if I wanted to. I can’t, because of the simple reason that I was not there in the restaurant when the discussion between the group and Henrik had happened. My opinion is that you can not judge over an incident when you don’t have the two sides of the story. Neither, judge over a reaction that a Manager of a Diving Center has over an incident that is/or could have seriously jeopardized the reputation of the Diving Center he is responsible of. That’s why I feel I should put the story online, so others know more about what really happened and that maybe people learn about other people’s mistakes.
We arrived at the 3rd dive site of that day. There were a lot of high waves smashing and breaking over the top of the reef, coming from north direction, frontal into the bow section(front side) of the boat, to the stern (back side).The dive was going to be a stationary dive to the reef in front of the boat. The reef was a long stretched coral block from west to east, very small. An average diver could easily manage to swim around it twice. Under the boat we had deep water…..deep deep!! CLOSE to the reef there is a sandy plateau that COMES UP TO about 24 m. Although my buddy and I dived till 20 m only. Since it was the third dive of the day my buddy and I were discussing whether or not to do this dive, or choose to relax. In the end we decided that we wanted to see the reef and agreed on going for a short one (we are used to dive AT LEAST one hour). The dive guide was notified and we agreed that we would be the last buddy team to go in.
Most of the people were ready, or almost ready to jump in when we started to get ready. By looking at the first group going in, it was clear that it was not so easy to get in the water. Not really because of lack of experience of some, but simply because the waves were high and they clearly made a trampoline out of the platform. Also, at the back of the boat we had a zodiac lined up; which was bumping on the waves. No problem to do the dive, we just needed to take care of our balance and make sure to jump in at the right moment to prevent a platform or a zodiac on top of somebody’s head. As the dive guide was already in the water, and everybody else was ready to go in, I decided to help the crew of the boat a bit with getting the people safely from the platform in the water. My buddy and I were still just in our suits.
After everybody got in (except for Mr. Peter A.), my buddy and I continued with getting ready. While we were doing our buddy check, Mr. Peter A. (TL 2, ca 1500 TG) came down from the sundeck and started to put on his suit. I looked and thought it was strange, since everybody left already. Usually, one would think that maybe this person would like to go out for snorkeling, but since the weather/ water conditions were not suitable for such thing, I asked him what he was going to do. He just looked up, without answering. So, again I asked him what he was going to do. He mumbled something that I could not understand. Than it became clear to me…..he was alone, there was still one set of dive equipment ready to be used, and he was planning to go and dive…… on his own. Not to jump to conclusions and to get my thoughts confirmed, I asked Mr. Peter A. if he was planning to dive on his own. Again I got no answer. I repeated the question. Now the answer was: “NO”. I asked who his buddy was going to be, since I knew that “his” group already left……no answer…….I repeated the questions: Who is your buddy and where is he/she? And, where is this person’s equipment??.....Then he mentioned a name. I asked again where he was, and got again no reply. After making funny faces Mr. Peter A. said that it was not my business and I should not interfere. I said that he should not think I am stupid and, that IF he was going to go for a “solo dive”, and something would happen to him, it was going to be my business for sure!
This because the rules amongst professionals are very clear: The highest certified/ most experienced diver on the site is expected to take responsibility that things run as smooth as possible, in case of an emergency/ incident. And since I was probably this person on the site that day, it was going to be my business, IF he was planning to neglect the rules of the Dive center, the general rules of recreational diving, AND the Egyptian Law!
Highly irritated he asked me what kind of certification I had. Since I am not a person bragging about my certification/ experience and how many dives I have, I told him, that was no important information for him to know at this point. Than, in an even more irritated way he asked me again about my level. I told him: It does not matter but, if you really want to know: I am an IDCS instructor (for people who are not familiar: this is the level of instructor that is allowed to give most of the training up to and including the level of Instructor, where Instructor training needs to be under supervision of a Course director). His reply: “And do you know who I am??? Well?? Do you know who I am??? I made far MORE dives then you did!”(At this point and until Mr. Peter A. is reading this story, he did not know about the amount of dives I have done so far). I told him that I didn’t give a shit who he was, what level he was and how many dives he had done and that the only conclusion I could make of this is, that with all his so called experience, he was planning to do something stupid and irresponsible. I informed him about the fact that people still drown in the Red Sea and that most accidents are with more experienced divers, simply because, they have forgotten the power of water and lost their respect to the sea along there career. I told him: You might be experienced but you can still make mistakes. What you are doing now is a mistake! On top of it is selfish. There are people on the boat who are on holiday, some of them even on there first proper dive holiday. What IF something happens? You are going to be responsible of giving these people a day never to forget. Look at the sea and the conditions! They are far from optimal and there is no way for a rescuer to help you in a proper manner in case something might happen. This is completely stupid!
After saying all this, I realized he was not listening at all. I lost most of my anger and I tried a different approach. I asked: Please, please, do not do this. Do not go in on your own. Stay out or JOIN US. I do not mind. (Do not forget that this day was supposed to be on of the rare days I can go for fun diving!). But, whatever you do, do not go in alone. Please….. In the meantime my buddy was waiting in the water for me and he had put his dive equipment on. He got up, made me step aside with an “ACH!!!!” sound coming out of his mouth. He did a negative entry and disappeared straight down into the deep blue, with the captain and me as surface witnesses and, my buddy in the water. Both the captain and my buddy asked: What is he doing??? Where is he going??? I told them both: He is going on his own; he is not diving with us. The captain was for sure not happy about this and said he did not want to have trouble on his boat. I fully understood him and thought he was right. I asked the captain to pay extra attention to the surface and to express his feelings to the Dive Center Manager about the whole thing. He asked me to do the same.
My buddy and I went for our dive immediately after Mr. Peter A. Even while going immediately after in the water, I couldn’t see any sign (or bubble) of Mr. Peter A. anymore. After 44 min. including safety stop, we got back on the boat.
The first person I saw was the captain, looking worried to the sea surface. I called him and asked if “Mr. Stupid” was already back. This was said in Arabic so no other guest could understand that I said this. He said: “No, he is not back yet and, I do NOT like this AT ALL”. I took my equipment of and started to look in the water. I saw a small group of people diving next to the boat in the direction of the platform, and I recognized the Orange jacket of Mr. Peter A. Yes, he came back with his group, but then again…it’s not so hard to find your group on a small reef like this.
To show everybody how good he was he found it necessary to get back on the platform of boat in the Dolfinarium“Sea lion” style. Not very professional for an Instructor, to do this, I must say. Since the platform was still going up and down because of the waves, this was probably the most unsafe way to get back on the boat. Once he got on the platform, he slipped and almost fell over, with fins and full equipment on. It was because of the boat crew that he could remain standing.
After the dive no exchange of words took place anymore. I had no interest of wasting anymore of my time to a stubborn and foolish person like that. To prevent any discussion, I also waited with speaking to the Dive Guide till we got back in the harbor. The fact that I told him, was not to speak bad about Mr. Peter A. (witch was off course the only thing possible) but more for the safety and care of the Dive Guide that was going with Mr. Peter A. on the boat the next day!
Back in the Dive Center, Henrik asked me what happened. Since the Dive Guide was there, I thought he had talked to Henrik already. But no, it was the captain that told Henrik what happened and surely Henrik wanted to know if the story was true. For me this was the end of it…..although, this is what I thought till the moment I found the negative stories about Equinox, the Manager and the Boat Crew on this website. I am usually just a reader and a silent visitor of forums on several websites, but reading the stories above, I had to write this of my chest.
To make the situation even clearer, I have listed some facts, Questions and statements:
• Mr. Peter A. is a TL 2 with about 1500 TG, maybe with some luck he is middle aged, so he belongs to the OLDER generation of divers.
• Me, IDCS Instructor with over 2000 TG, experience in cold water/ dive safaris and over 6 years of experience in the dive industry of which 5 years of instructing experience(this was something Mr. Peter A. obviously did not know). This information will make readers probably understand more about why I bothered to even stop this person. Simply because, unfortunately, I know and witnessed myself that a nice day on the boat can end up in a tragedy.
• Because of my level of certification, I am expected to help any person in case of an emergency. To be honest, after a conversation like mentioned before, it is really hard to feel myself motivated in case something would have happened to Mr. Peter A. A person, who deliberately puts himself in an unsafe situation and has no respect for other people, rules, local law or water. For sure I would feel obligated to help this person in case of an emergency, but you can probably understand why, in my anger, I was thinking: “Go on! Just fuck off and kill your self” (Apologies to this language but this is simply what I thought).
• I like deep dives myself. And since underwater photography is one of my hobbies, you can understand that with dives I do to make photo’s, I preferably do them solo as well, or with somebody else with the same goals. There is nothing wrong with doing dives like that, as long as they are well planned, with the use of the proper equipment and safety measurements, and done within the limits of the Egyptian law. In the end this means: being a technical diver of some level, equipped with stage tanks or other bail out system, at supervision of a technical dive facility. So, in this case I do not think that Mr. Peter A. is meeting ANY of these requirements.
• Mr. Peter A. clamed to be a TL 2. I, as a dive professional, am taking my responsibilities as one seriously. These responsibilities do not end on day of “fun diving” with a friend. As an instructor, you should always act as a role model to other divers. Not only towards less high or less experienced divers. For you knowledge, there was at least one person on board who was newly certified. I sorry to say so, but Mr. Peter A. was one of the worst examples that somebody could have that day. As he is still an instructor, I hope that others still did learn from him that day. As especially how you should NOT act as a responsible diver!
• How can the rest of the group say that Mr. Peter A. was right behind them, when he only started to get dressed and ready after everybody went into the water??? THIS IS SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE!!!
• If Mr. Peter A. and one of the members of his group would have simply shown Henrik their dive computers, to show similar dive time/ depth and entry time, there was nothing to discus anyway. For sure this did not happen, or, did it Mr. Peter A.???
• Why did Mr. Peter A. waited to get dressed after everybody left, and why he did not join his group from the start? Another small detail to the sorry: he told the responsible dive guide of that day that he was not going to make this dive!!! Since the dive guide was in the water, he could not possibly know that Mr. Peter A. went for the dive anyway! To me, this all looks like Mr. Peter A. had been planning his solo dive. He knew that the dive guide would not let him go for the dive alone so he waited till everybody left. Except for my buddy and I. This could be because of the reason we were taking things slow. We were not going for a long dive anyway so: No rush. If he would have waited any longer, he would not be able to come back with the rest of the group to cover up his solo dive. Like this, nobody had to know about it. Very smart, but unfortunately not smart enough.
• Al this happened during the 3rd dive of the day. Even though DAN (Divers Alert Network) published very interesting articles about how you can safely dive reverse profiles, it does not take a professor in physics and decompression theory to figure out that this is not a very smart move.
• I hope that in the future people will choose there instructor carefully, and not have Mr. Peter A. as their instructor. If he is not giving any value to rules and regulations, how can his students get this???? Leaning people how to set up their equipment, breath under water and use their fins is simply not enough to make them a diver!!!!! Some common sense and responsibility is also part of the “game” to keep this sport a save and fantastic hobby. Unfortunately Mr. Peter A. has got a serious lack of both.
• Henrik is a former colleague of mine who I have known for years as a respectable person with an enormous knowledge about diving. A strong person with good judgment.
I think that enough has been said about this matter now and that this “other side of the story” surely explains the anger and frustration of Henrik. Like I said before: I cannot judge over his placed remark towards the guest because, I was not there when this happened. The only thing that I can say is that people who are acting like this would never be welcome on a boat or Dive Center where I was to be the responsible person.
Despite this incident, the bad visibility during the house reef dives, the cold wind, the waves (that made it CLEARLY impossible to get anywhere near Elphinstone) and no dugong encounter, my buddy and I had a great time!!! For sure these things have got nothing to do with the professional way Claudia and Henrik are running things in the center. For sure we will go back to Equinox in the near future!
To all divers that would like to keep diving a great and fantastic experience: wish you a lot of great and save dives in the future!!! Like nicely said: Leave bubbles, no troubles!!!
Gr. Mireille
Ps: 5 fins because, I am spoild and laizy. There is a ´trolley service´ that will bring you Equipment close to the watersite of the house reef but I (!!!) choose not to use this (Stupid me). Result: muscle pain in the arms from draging my camera along on every dive.
)))